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Comments on IB Fieldbook Prototype – V325/02/11

  1. There is no version number on the loading screen or on the opening screen so I have chosen to call this Prototype –V 3. Please add one and keep it updated.
  2. I closed the Study Browser pane and there appears to be no way to get it back – even restarting the application.
  3. Do you think we should call this thing the 'Prototype Integrated Breeding Workbench - Vx'. I know that the only thing it has on it is the IB Fieldbook, but presumably soon it will have a Prototype IB Breeding Manager also. What do you think?
  4. The first menu on the workbench should be called 'Project' and it should have two entries 'Open' and 'New' – both should say 'Not implemented yet'. However we are assuming that some project is active and we need somewhere on the Workbench a title showing what project is active. What about the top line saying: Integrated Breeding Workbench. Active Project: Test Project for IB Fieldbook. On the ICIS launcher we also have a picture loaded indication what project is active as suggested on the mockup here .
  5. The menu titled 'File' should be the second menu and should be called 'Study'. In this prototype it should have the entries 'New Study', 'Open Study', 'New Trial', 'New Nursery' etc. At first, only "New Study' should be active.
  6. When a study is opened by the Open Study option or by highlighting the Study Name in the Study Browser, the item 'New Trial' in the Study menu should be activated. The menu could also be opened by right clicking on the study name as it is now, but this is not intuitive as Delphine explained.
  7. You might want to add some new icons to the icon bar where we have Open Study and new Study so far, but we probably want to think how we are going to mange these icons because they soon get very numerous.
  8. The Tool Tips have vanished from the Study Conditions page (and other pages too). We definitely need tool tips, but not necessarily in the way they were implemented in the last version. I did not like the way they came up automatically unless you clicked them off, and clicked off I could not see how to get them back. One idea would be to have a small clickable question mark next to any item for which there is a tool tip. See points in Comments on IBFieldbook V2 201011082200.doc.
  9. When the germplasm list is retrieved, all germplasm labels should be shown in the germplasm table whether or not they are retrieved from the list. So in the IBFB5-MET Template with Labels and Factorial Treatments template example there should be columns for ENTRY, ENTRY CD, DESIG and GID. The actual list of labels shown depends on the template. If there are labels which are not filled automatically or from the germplasm list, then the user should be given the chance to fill them in this table according to the table filling rules (as for trial conditions etc).
  10. On the Other Treatment Factors page, the data entry boxes should be number dials since you can only enter positive integers. Once you have entered the numbers of levels for the other factors you need to ask the user to specify values for any labels of these factors (if there are any labels). In our example we have a label for FERTLE called FERTAM – Read point 2 in IB FieldBook V2 Issues.doc and point 10 in Comments on IBFieldbook V2 201011082200.doc.
  11. The Generate Design Page is still very confusing and not working as it should. As in my previous comments in Comments on IBFieldbook V2 201011082200.doc point 14, please look at the mockup here: If you don't like this then please suggest another. Remember that the fields have to change depending on the design you choose.
  12. On the Other Treatment Factors tab, the column for Value makes no sense. The entries are Factors so they only have Levels and the levels are supplied 1,2,3 ..

The piece that is missing from this tab is the levels of any labels of these factors. In our case we have a Label FERTAM of Factor FERTLE, This is the label you have not asked about as in point 10 above. The values of this label might be 100, 200 and 300 kg/ha for example. How should this be displayed in your table? I am not quite sure, but what about this:

Label Factor Description Scale Level
FERTLE FERTLE Fertilizer level Number 1
FERTLE FERTLE Fertilizer level Number 2
FERTLE FERTLE Fertilizer level Number 3
FERTAM FERTLE Fertilizer amount Kg/Ha 100
FERTAM FERTLE Fertilizer amount Kg/Ha 200
FERTAM FERTLE Fertilizer amount Kg/Ha 300
PDATE PDATE Planting date Number 1
PDATE PDATE Planting date Number 2
  1. The Entries Tab should be called "Germplasm Entries" and it should come before the Other Treatment Factors tab. The table must show all the Germplasm Entries factor labels. In this case it should also show 'Entry'. With other templates it will show other labels as discusses in point 9.
  2. The layout of the Experimental Design tab is probably ok in this context (wheras it does not work in the wizard context). But the Parameters column should be a non-editable string column containing the parameters of the design for each instance. For example if the design for each instance is Randomized Complete Block with three reps, then the Parameters column should contain REPS=3, SEED=872634 (whatever the seed number is – as I suggested you could get this from the milliseconds clock or some other way in Java, but also all the user to specify it. With the table in this format, the fields at the bottom of the table should apply to the filtered or highlighted trial and could be editable, including the design, which could be set here for each instance separately.
  3. The measurements table is looking better, but you have not implemented the Nested Number scale for the Field Plot factor. It is good that you have realized that you need a distinct set of plot numbers over all trial instances, and your implementation might be chosen by some people, but let's give it a different scale then – what about scale Number with the Field plot factor nested in Trail. When you see this combination in the template you could generate a set of plot numbers as you have 1-120 over the three trails. I don't think this is how most people want to see the plot numbers. Because the cooperator who is going to plant Trial Instance 2 is going to get a fieldbook with plots numbered 41 to 80 and this will be confusing. My proposal for a scale called Nested Number would number the plots in Trail 1 from, 101 to 140, trial 2 from 201 to 240 and trial 3 from 301 to 340. I suggested an algorithm in the file IB FieldBook V2 Issues.doc point 7. Again not very elegant, but I think cooperator for trial 2 might prefer to have plots 201 – 240 than 41 to 80. What do you think? The beauty of our system is that users can have whichever they want according to how the template is set up.
  4. The measurements table should show all labels of the data set (or at least be able to show them all), ie the Trial Conditions, labels of the Field Plot Factor, the Germplasm Entries Factor and the other treatment factors. For example in the Workbook I sent you:

I think the default order should be the trial instance Factor and the trial conditions, followed by the Field Plot Factor and its labels (Rep Block Row and COL) then the Germplasm Entries Factor and its labels (ENTRY, ENTRY CD, DESIG and GID), then the other treatment factors and their labels. Now this makes for a big table, so you want the possibility to hide labels if the user wants. I think the Factors should always be shown (since they give the structure to the dataset), so you could have an option to click on a factor heading and hide or show its labels.

  1. Note, you use the word 'Repetition' in several places. In English it is 'Replication'. Easy to confuse, I know.
  2. In the measurements tab you have a column headed 'Entry ID'. There is no 'Entry ID' in the template, the Germplasm Entry Factor is called 'ENTRY' and it is the one missing from the germplasm tables in the wizard and in the tab.
  3. When I use the CSV export of the trail Conditions and of the measurements table I get a file without extension. I have to add extension csv in order to read it directly into excel.
  4. For this prototype comments 4 and 11 are important from the users in IITA.
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